[39] 9.8 icons & reaction

[tebtosca]

Not too many icons this week because I'm hosting Thanksgiving tomorrow and have been attempting to clean my house most of the day lol. Hope all my American flisters have a great holiday, and all my non-American flisters eat a shit ton of food in solidarity \o/



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And some not-so-deep thoughts:



-Can we all just agree that the writing is terrible?
-I mean, for a long time.
-And if you loved S8 and are outraged about S9
-Then you probably have "destielwuvshugs" in your tumblr name
-Shush, it's true
-With that being said, this one was filler
-Loved Sheriff Sassy, who remains flawless
-Loved her haircut and her Sheriff jacket
-And that she's finding her place in the world again
-And remains uncertain about some things and secure and strong about others
-Plus she ships wincest
-I mean, hello, people! :D
-You could tell the virgins by their eyebrows
-It's true
-Science
-Not sure why they were using their real names
-I expected John Holmes or something
-Glad to see the Death Peen is resistant to LOLCANON
-That sex monologue felt like I was spying on a meeting at Ackles Army HQ
-Why does the fat girl steal the cookies?
-I mean, that bothered me the most about the whole episode lol
-That's probably my ass talking, though
-Oh, I take it back
-The stupidest thing was Dean not answering Sam's call
-That was dumb
-The sex scene itself didn't bother me like it did some people
-I'm all for two consenting human adults having sex
-Especially on a show where sex usually involves noncon or monsters
-And how fucking sad is that?
-Low standards, yo
-I found the line about "you're the good dreams" quite telling
-Proof of my theory that Dean clings to/enjoys the small comforts
-Sex/porn/burgers/classic rock/making fun of his little brother's stupid hair
-For small, happy moments in a really shitty life
-We take comfort where we can, and there's nothing wrong with that
-The scene was cheesy because it was badly written as a porn pastiche
-But I didn't see any sort of coercion
-He was fangirling her like Dr. Sexy almost
-Suzy still had the DVDS, which tells me that she perhaps "missed that" like she later says
-People are often shamed into thinking sex is bad, especially if they were in sex work
-And sometimes they go too far into the opposite direction
-And right into the arms of another form of manipulation
-Yes, I mean religion.
-And then someone tells her not to be ashamed
-And that she has provided comfort
-And she (rather enthusiastically) decides to take what she wants
-Which was her choice and again, consent matters
-And only feels some guilt later when she's "punished", which is of course a fear embedded in the act of shaming
-But, as we know, God in this universe is banging strippers in Australia, SO.
-So, yes, awkward writing/pacing and cheesy, but I'm not layering angst on what looked like a good time had by all
-And to people that haven't realized Dean Winchester is an asshole yet...
-Oh, you!
-On a completely shallow note, Suzy was super cute and looked way hot with Jensen
-Back to the Sam Winchester Unconsciousness Tour of 2013
-I was waiting for Jody to die so Zeke heal her as Dean cradled her face, voice breaking
-Sam being dead inside...does that make Sam/Dean necro?
-Another Sam/Ruby parallel!
-This isn't going to end well, is it?

Comments

[pjmarshall80.livejournal.com]

What is going on not sure if replies are posting... Totally with you on the PTSD front and the parallels can you imagine the beautiful drama that would have made, the depth it would have touched and the better understanding fandom would have had and sympathy for each bros situation. S 8 at the start dropped a few balls but it was new establishment or reestablishment coming in and it's all well and good I suppose for us to say this and this and this would work in hindsight. However they were on a tight schedule creating from scratch. So just have to chalk it up to missed opportunity and keep it in mind for patch and repair work as we go forward. Give them their dues they were firing on all cylinders come 'Sacrifice' such a strong finish to 8.

The problem with Cas has been the fandom response to him and Misha. They feel they have to elevate his character time when I'm going to be blatantly honest here, they don't. I really appreciate Cas as a character and like Misha but SPN to me is a pyramid and from the day they killed off John that 3 person topper became a two only. Sam and Dean are the central heart. the next tier down Bobby, Cas, Crowley and so on and so on now. Last season Kevin was second tier now he's pushed to third. Second tier this season is prob Zeke, Cas Abaddon and Crowley Jody could potentially be a third tier character now if they were savy along side Charley. My point is the second to mid tiers of the pyramid characters rotate in and out of prevalence. The top tier is the bros solid never changing and the bottom of the pyramid changes per episode they are the supporting cast.

I think Cas is a secondary character. Although at the same time because they have gone down the evac heaven follow the tablets route he is a very central secondary character at the moment. secondary on the second tier only to Zeke

But it's the bro's perspective and presence that takes us in and out of the stories of the SPN world and their interaction with those events is the heart. So I feel Cas is an important secondary character but not as central to the frame as he has been pushed for example. The CW ad has Sam, Dean and Cas pushing Cas to a character level on the tier he's not.

Really they should have had Sam, Dean first tier and Cas and Sam blue eyed as Zeke two secondary characters if they wanted him in that ad. The PR would never have put Abaddon on the ad because they think fandom would pee their pants at the disruption of eye candy ( how bloody shallow do they think we are) and Crowley would be classed as too old sorry Mark.

Their other option would have been to have Sam, Dean, Cas and Kevin if they didn't want to give the Zeke game away prematurely, that would have reflected the two star characters and two secondary characters who in season 8 were lynch pin to the story which they are continuing on into this season.


If they play mid season right tomorrow night then the pay off for Cas's Nam will be well worth the drag but it will now be Sam and Dean's fight. Cas's existance in the bro's life and their experience of watching and being players with him in this struggle has led to the expected his background lays the foundations for their big battle as it did with Michael and Lucifer. As it will when they become central to Angel Royale the worlds fate will rest ultimately on Sam and Dean.

I do like this season I ave to say, yes there are things I would change but ultimately the start has been strong it all hangs on mid-season and how well tey utilies the plot and army of characters at their disposal. I feel some characters have been thrown away at times i.e Crowley and Kevin but that could be turned good in a heartbeat with the right plot choices. I'm glad Charlie is in OZ cause I love her but she has no place in this fight she is from another friendship group in their life....